Posts by Strider Arekksu

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Peace and security..WHY in the heck does Jah intervene then?

by Botzwana in

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according to witness theology when the cry of peace and security rings out then jehovah will destroy all the infidels etc...yawn....but going by their teachings...why would he intervene then?

when man finally gets it right, does he have to come in and whomp ass?

makes no frickin sense to me.

Strider Arekksu

Actually, the reason that he intervined in the tower of Babel incident was because they were building the tower to take him out and put their fake gods up there, that was the purpose of the tower. And they became obsessed with it to the point of they would build the bricks and if the bricks broke they would freak out and cry over one brick for the tower breaking, but if a man fell 1000s of feet from the tower and was kllied they wouldn't bat an eye at it.

Of course this is from a book that was taken out, if the sciptures were available in their fullness I think about every answer in the book would be answered including the one that was orignally asked in this topic, which has to do with the salvation of the Gentiles and the fact that they are coming out of their power today cause they didn't adhere to any laws, put up fake images of christs, wore out the Isrealites through slavery etc.

Cause remember that the majority of people earlier in the AD periods, particularly the Europeans never had any singificant problems until the early 1900s, when the wars started breaking out, now that it's time for the Gentile nations to reap what they've sown they want to jump on the Jesus train and march into the kingdom of God, but if they read the scriptures, the Gentiles were never promised any rest, Jesus said he would give Isreal rest (Matthew 11:28) cause he was reffering to scripture (specifically Isaiah 14: 3), he litterally only used scripture, he never made anything up, even the earthquake and nation prophecy was already in the scriptures.

2 Edras

{9:3} Therefore when there shall be seen earthquakes and
uproars of the people in the world:
{9:4} Then shalt thou well understand, that the most High
spake of those things from the days that were before thee,
even from the beginning.

But the idiotic forefather Isrealites at the time were obsessed with Moses and could care less for the prophecies.

So at Matthew 11:28 - Then Jesus said, "Come to me, all of you who are weary and carry heavy burdens, and I will give you rest.

He was reffering to Isaiah 14: 3 - In that wonderful day when the LORD gives his people rest from sorrow and fear, from slavery and chains.

AND I think the leaders know this cause the God a lot of people think of as the "Christain" God is not the actual one according to the scriptures and although a lot of Chirstians spew the everyone came from Adam line, I find it interesting that they find THIS scripture "non-canon".

This is Edras (an Isrealite) speaking in spirit.

2 Edras

{6:54} And after these, Adam also, whom thou madest
lord of all thy creatures: of him come we all, and the people
also whom thou hast chosen.

{6:55} All this have I spoken before thee, O Lord,
because thou madest the world for our sakes

{6:56} As for the other people, which also come of Adam,
thou hast said that they are nothing, but be like unto spittle:
and hast likened the abundance of them unto a drop that
falleth from a vessel.

I don't see how it's "not-canon" that in the long run he doesn't care about anybody but the Isrealites.

Infact, I know the JWs try and make up this BS reason the spirit Satan exists (there is more than one satan, as that is a title that can also be used on people in scripture), when it was CLEARLY answered in a book that was taken out. In fact I think it was maybe Abraham who asked why Satan exists, and the answer he got was something that roughly says that he uses him to seperate people who love lies from the people who love truth. I don't have that scripture anymore, got a virus that wiped my data base clean.

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Something is wrong with my dad...

by Strider Arekksu in

i keep prooving to my dad how fucked up this religion is, how it lies, and how it is willing to call jesus and the prohets liars if it comes down to the wire to justify it's existance as a religion.

the only thing i did not show him is the faulty logic that is used in their litaruature.. sometimes he starts getting it and trying to listen, but if i don't say anything to him for a long time, and go off and do my own thing (studying by myself for a couple months), i come back and he'll be back to complete brainwash mode.

and the sad thing is he does not go to the meetings, and when he did (very rarely) i'd go and prove to him how the organization is wrong!

Strider Arekksu

"You might get a better hearing if you stop trying to convert him to your new found beliefs and just concentrate on the WTs faulty ones."

You know in order to fully CONVERT someone to something it has to be an actual relgion or practice, unfortunately this is not it, this is dealing with a nation of people. The sad thing is there are many higher up people in the western governmental organization of the world who know what I'm talking about and know its true and are making FUN of the children of Isreal because they don't know who they are anymore.

The reason why most of the prophecies "fail" is beacuse they have NOTHING to do with most of the world, it's only talking about the decendants of one race of people, but when people get taught that same garbage that race doesn't matter, over and over again, no one can tell what is going on anymore.

I'm telling my dad that the most important thing for the Isrealite to do is to get out of these religions, every last one of them, and realize why they are at the bottom of society. This doomsday lie stuff isn't 'doomsday' - its payback for what was done to the children of Isreal and how they were treated as slaves, as alligator bait and made into a race of mockery, that's why Jesus said vengence is his, he will deal with all nations for what they did to Isreal , Judah and making Jersualem some kind of gettaway resort.

But I'm not concnerned with whether non-decendants of Isreal actually believe what I'm saying, they have their own gods and ideas they can run after.

But thanks to all that encouraged me. I'm probably just going to go back to studying and not worrying about him anymore. I'm tired of going in circles . The only problem is that he doesn't go to meetings so he can't see the flaws as much as I can, he can only see them put on their best behavior attitude. He also believes that God would not leave the world in the wilderness, and that belief is over powering what the scriptures actually say.

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Something is wrong with my dad...

by Strider Arekksu in

i keep prooving to my dad how fucked up this religion is, how it lies, and how it is willing to call jesus and the prohets liars if it comes down to the wire to justify it's existance as a religion.

the only thing i did not show him is the faulty logic that is used in their litaruature.. sometimes he starts getting it and trying to listen, but if i don't say anything to him for a long time, and go off and do my own thing (studying by myself for a couple months), i come back and he'll be back to complete brainwash mode.

and the sad thing is he does not go to the meetings, and when he did (very rarely) i'd go and prove to him how the organization is wrong!

Strider Arekksu

No, anything disrespectful in the post is just venting, it was not in the literal scruffle. This goes deeper than just "your beliefs, my beliefs". This is an Isrealite issue which is why I am getting on him about it, not listening basically equals death for us, which is why I'm trying to study these prohicies like crazy.

These verses are from the book of Enoch, which was taken out of the Bible by the leaders of christain religion or the false bride

"But small lambs were born from those white sheep, and they began to open their

eyes and to see and to cry to the sheep. But the sheep did not cry to them and did not

hear what they said to them, but were exceedingly deaf, and their eyes exceedingly and

powerfully blinded."

"And I saw at that time that an abyss like it was opened in the middle

of the earth, which was full of fire, and they brought those blinded sheep, and they all were

judged and were found to be sinners, and were thrown into the abyss of fire and burned; and

this abyss was to the right of that house."

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Something is wrong with my dad...

by Strider Arekksu in

i keep prooving to my dad how fucked up this religion is, how it lies, and how it is willing to call jesus and the prohets liars if it comes down to the wire to justify it's existance as a religion.

the only thing i did not show him is the faulty logic that is used in their litaruature.. sometimes he starts getting it and trying to listen, but if i don't say anything to him for a long time, and go off and do my own thing (studying by myself for a couple months), i come back and he'll be back to complete brainwash mode.

and the sad thing is he does not go to the meetings, and when he did (very rarely) i'd go and prove to him how the organization is wrong!

Strider Arekksu

I keep prooving to my dad how fucked up this religion is, how it lies, and how it is willing to call Jesus and the prohets LIARS if it comes down to the wire to justify it's existance as a religion. The only thing I did not show him is the faulty logic that is used in their litaruature.

Sometimes he starts getting it and trying to listen, but if I don't say anything to him for a long time, and go off and do my own thing (studying by myself for a couple months), I come back and he'll be back to complete brainwash mode. And the sad thing is HE DOES NOT GO TO THE MEETINGS, and when he did (VERY RARELY) I'd go and PROVE TO HIM HOW THE ORGANIZATION IS WRONG! I'd sit and take notes on everything they have wrong in the scriptures. And he will see it, but if I say something that goes against the teachings, he can't except it, even if it is PLAINLY in the Bible that they aren't right.

I remember telling him that the scriptures does not say the whole world will become a paradise and the only place that would be restored to a garden like state of Eden would be the rebuilt Jersualem (Ezekiel 36: 35).

He said that can't be true? WHY? Because some fucked up religion told you they were being used by a moronic false god that doesn't know what the hell it's doing?

I told him, begged him to start diving into the scriptures, READING, STUDYING, TAKING NOTES! But he just makes excuses. He says to do it as a family, I said I can't keep doing it with you guys, you have to learn to study for yourself. He kept saying "you have your beliefs, and I have mine." I told him that he is not beliving anything, he is being lazy and that he is suppose to study the scriptures himself line on line, precept on precept. He went nuts.

He aslo said that what Jesus said in the past was outdated, implying that the org can overide it basicially. I told him that it was insane to call the words of not only a prophet but the Lord of the world outdadted when up against a bunch of insane humans with a superiority complex.

My dad is really intelligent too, there is no excuse for this (no offense) almost boderline mentally challenged behavior. I showed him some notes and scriptures showing that the org was a lie, he got mad took the notes ripped them up and threw them away, he also almost punched me in the face. He also kept saying over and over again to prove that the org was wrong, and I didn't really know what to say. I wanted to ask if he was a complete idiot, I mean what was I doing before? Does he hear anything at all when I say to him that the org is no fucking good? This is truly a prefect case of blindnesses and deafness. I just don't know what is wrong with him or how it can be fixed. Not doing anything seems to just revert him back to brainwash mode.

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are you glad to be done with this type of insanity (taken from yahoo e-mail group)

by booby in

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friends,.

i've been doing research and can find almost nothing on this in the research aids.. my question is this.

at the end of the system, the calamity of the coming destruction will be enough to destroy most of the life on this planet.

Strider Arekksu

"2. Egyptians fleeing Israel"

Read the Bible, this is happening AGAIN on a grander scale, God NEVER rejected Isreal, it would not make sense, his plan was to scatter them into all nations and let them be perscuted and treated like the lowest race on the face of the planet and then in the end show ALL nations that he exists by saving them out of EVERY single country where he scattered them and returning them to Isreal, then all other nations will come to know he is the true God and learn his ways. Religions treat the old testament like its a freaking comic book.

Jeremiah 16: 14-21 - "However, the days are coming," declares the Lord, "when men will no longer say, 'As surely as the Lord lives, who brought the Israelites up out of Egypt,' but they will say, 'As surely as the Lord lives, who brought the Israelites up out of the land of the north and out of all the countries where he had banished them.' For I will restore them to the land I gave their forefathers. "But now I will send for many fishermen," declares the Lord, "and they will catch them. After that I will send for many hunters, and they will hunt them down on every mountain and hill and from the crevices of the rocks. My eyes are on all their ways; they are not hidden from me, nor is their sin concealed from my eyes. I will repay them double for their wickedness and their sin, because they have defiled my land with the lifeless forms of their vile images and have filled my inheritance with their detestable idols."O Lord, my strength and my fortress, my refuge in time of distress, to you the nations will come from the ends of the earth and say, "Our fathers possessed nothing but false gods, worthless idols that did them no good. Do men make their own gods? Yes, but they are not gods!" "Therefore I will teach them-- this time I will teach them my power and might. Then they will know that my name is the Lord.

Ezekiel 39:27-29 – “ When I have brought them back from the nations and have gathered them from the countries of their enemies, I will show myself holy through them in the sight of many nations. Then they will know that I am the Lord their God, for though I sent them into exile among the nations, I will gather them to their own land, not leaving any behind. I will no longer hide my face from them, for I will pour out my Spirit on the house of Israel, declares the Sovereign Lord. "

Deuteronomy 4: 25- 31- After you have had children and grandchildren and have lived in the land a long time – if you then become corrupt and make any kind of idol, doing evil in the eyes of the Lord your God and provoking him to anger, I call heaven and earth as my witnesses against you this day that you will quickly perish from the land that you are crossing the Jordan to possess. You will not live there long but will certainly be destroyed. The Lord will scatter you among the peoples, and only a few of you will survive among the nations to which the Lord will drive you. There you will worship man-made gods of wood and stone, which cannot see or hear or eat or smell. But if from there you seek the Lord your God, you will find him if you look for him with all your heart and with all your soul. When you are in distress and all these things have happened to you, then in the later days you will return to the Lord your God and obey him. For the Lord your God is a merciful God; he will not abandon you or destroy you or forget the covenant with your forefathers, which he confirmed to them by oath.

Leviticus 26: 33-45 – I will scatter you among the nations and draw out my sword and pursue you. Your land will be laid waste, and your cities will lie in ruins. Then the land will enjoy its Sabbath years all the time that it lies desolate, the land will have the rest it did not have during the Sabbaths you lived in it. As for those of you who are left, I will make their hearts so fearful in the lands of their enemies that the sound of a windblown leaf will put them to flight. They will run as though fleeing from the sword, and they will fall, even though no one is pursuing them. They will stumble over one another as though fleeing from the sword, even though no one is pursuing them, so you will not be able to stand before your enemies. You will perish among the nations; the land of your enemies will devour you. Those of you who are left will waste away. But if they confess their sins and the sins of their fathers=their treachery against me and their hostility towards me, which made me hostile towards them so that I sent them into the land of their enemies-then when their uncircumcised hearts become humbled and they pay for their sin, I will remember my covenant with Jacob and my covenant with Isaac and my covenant with Abraham, and I will remember the land. For the land will be deserted by them and will enjoy its Sabbaths while it lies desolate without them. They will pay for their sins because they rejected my laws and abhorred my decrees. Yet in spite of this, when they are in the land of their enemies, I will not reject them or abhor them so as to destroy them completely, breaking my covenant with them. I am the Lord their God.But for their sake I will remember their ancestors whom I brought out of Egypt in the sight of the nations to be their God. I am the Lord.

Daniel 9: 11-19 - All Israel has transgressed your law and turned away, refusing to obey you. "Therefore the curses and sworn judgments written in the Law of Moses, the servant of God, have been poured out on us, because we have sinned against you. You have fulfilled the words spoken against us and against our rulers by bringing upon us great disaster. Under the whole heaven nothing has ever been done like what has been done to Jerusalem. Just as it is written in the Law of Moses, all this disaster has come upon us, yet we have not sought the favor of the Lord our God by turning from our sins and giving attention to your truth. The Lord did not hesitate to bring the disaster upon us, for the Lord our God is righteous in everything he does; yet we have not obeyed him. "Now, O Lord our God, who brought your people out of Egypt with a mighty hand and who made for yourself a name that endures to this day, we have sinned, we have done wrong. O Lord, in keeping with all your righteous acts, turn away your anger and your wrath from Jerusalem, your city, your holy hill. Our sins and the iniquities of our fathers have made Jerusalem and your people an object of scorn to all those around us. "Now, our God, hear the prayers and petitions of your servant. For your sake, O Lord, look with favor on your desolate sanctuary. Give ear, O God, and hear; open your eyes and see the desolation of the city that bears your Name. We do not make requests of you because we are righteous, but because of your great mercy. O Lord, listen! O Lord, forgive! O Lord, hear and act! For your sake, O my God, do not delay, because your city and your people bear your Name."

Ezekiel 11: 16- 21 – "Therefore say: 'This is what the Sovereign Lord says: Although I sent them far away among the nations and scattered them among the countries, yet for a little while I have been a sanctuary for them in the countries where they have gone.' "Therefore say: 'This is what the Sovereign Lord says: I will gather you from the nations and bring you back from the countries where you have been scattered, and I will give you back the land of Israel again.' "They will return to it and remove all its vile images and detestable idols. I will give them an undivided heart and put a new spirit in them; I will remove from them their heart of stone and give them a heart of flesh. Then they will follow my decrees and be careful to keep my laws. They will be my people, and I will be their God. But as for those whose hearts are devoted to their vile images and detestable idols, I will bring down on their own heads what they have done, declares the Sovereign Lord. "

Ezekiel 31: 21-24- “and say to them, ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: I will take the Israelites out of the nations where they have gone. I will gather them from around all and bring them back into their own land. I will make them one nation in the land on the mountains of Israel. There will be one king over all of them and they will never again be two nations of be divided into two kingdoms. They will no longer defile themselves with their idols and vile images or with any of their offenses, for I will save them from all their sinful backsliding, and I will cleanse them. They will be my people, and I will be their God. My servant David will be king over them, and they will all have on shepherd. They will follow my laws and be careful to keep my decrees. They will live in the land I gave to my servant Jacob, the land where your fathers lived. They and their children and their children’s children will live there forever. I will make a covenant of peace with them; it will be an everlasting covenant. I will establish them and increase their numbers, and will put my sanctuary among them forever. My dwelling place will be with them; I will be their God, and they will be my people. Then the nations will know that I the Lord make Israel holy, when my sanctuary is among them forever.’”

Romans 11: 1 - I ask then: Did God reject his people? By no means! I am an Israelite myself, a descendant of Abraham, from the tribe of Benjamin. God did not reject his people, whom he foreknew. Don't you know what the Scripture says in the passage about Elijah—how he appealed to God against Israel: "Lord, they have killed your prophets and torn down your altars; I am the only one left, and they are trying to kill me"? And what was God's answer to him? "I have reserved for myself seven thousand who have not bowed the knee to Baal." So too, at the present time there is a remnant chosen by grace.

Jeremiah 31: 35-37 - This is what the Lord says, he who appoints the sun to shine by day, who decrees the moon and stars to shine by night, who stirs up the sea so that its waves roar— the Lord Almighty is his name: "Only if these decrees vanish from my sight," declares the Lord, "will the descendants of Israel ever cease to be a nation before me." This is what the Lord says: "Only if the heavens above can be measuredand the foundations of the earth below be searched out will I reject all the descendants of Israel because of all they have done," declares the Lord.

There are TONS more scriptures and I'm not just pulling out verses, but chapters. This is brought up OVER and OVER again in the scriptures, it's almost ridculous how bad religions are screwing things up, this is why Jesus NEVER commanded the Gentiles to teach or preach, that was only the job of the chosen Isrealite remanants who didn't reject the Lord, most Gentiles didn't even know what they were doing when worshipping before they became acceptable to God, how could they TEACH? They were only given right into the kingdom through faith, and their worhsip became acceptable, but NEVER did they gain teaching privledges, Paul said that the Word was entrusted to the Isrealites. Now all these religons are confusing the entire planet. The JW religion in particular is an insult to Scriptual prohpecy.

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Service is mathematically and logically pointless.

by confliction in

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so, i was thinking today about the point of service, other than the proclamations the king and his kingdom (bs :p ) and i kind of had an epiphany... but i'm sure somebody has already thought of this.

first, for people who never hear the 'truth', or never come to a true accurate understanding of it, they will most likely have odds in favor of them surviving into the paradise earth to get a second chance.

let's say the odds are 99% survival.. .

Strider Arekksu

He only commanded the Iseralites to preach the word, if you read all of the NT no where are there examples of non-Isrealites teaching, there were even problems where Judeans would only preach to scattered Isrealites (decendants of Isrealites in other countries) and ignored Gentiles, even though they were suppose to hear the word too. All they taught was basically to live pure honest lives, with out hurting others, live for others, work hard but not selfishly etc. And they would occasionally gather together for some encouragement. Other than that this was pretty much personal stuff.

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I don't know what made be buy the Universal Sovereignty argument for the permission of evil

by gubberningbody in

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...but it seems foundational to any intelligent investing in a religion.. i you can't provide a morally upright reason for the permission of evil without just having the deity pull rank and declare himself righteous, then i'm not really interested in hearing any more.. were i to listen, it would be out of morbid curiosity, not out of any intent to invest..

Strider Arekksu

The Bible is missing some books, the Gentiles took out some of the scriptures when they stole them and created Christinainty - there is no such thing as religion in the Bible (God only works through fleshly Isrealites when it comes to teaching his word), it was not by God's hand that books were taken out. If you read some of the missing books you get the plot holes. What the FRUIT Satan actually had was - (information humans had no right to know), why there was a flood, how bad humans actually got, the fact that Noah preached for over 100 years before the flood and no one listened, that Isreal was never rejected, and who the true Isrealites actually are today and the fact that God is hiding from Isreal right now for what they did, all you can see is the curses upon them, but the curses are so damn strong, no one can see it. I'll probably make a thread of it latter.

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The New Jeremiah Book

by zoiks in

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my mother-in-law just got back from her convention and gave us the new releases, this jeremiah book included.

just a quick scan of it has revealed a few gems.. first of all, there is a chapter entitled, "you can benefit from the new covenant" (italics theirs).

i am not a christian, but i understand the beef that many will have with this entire chapter.

Strider Arekksu

"Is this another "Everything in this book of prophecy was fullfilled in 1919 TM when Jehovah's Anointed TM were freed from Babylonish Captivity TM " book?"

Pardon my french, but these teachings are a fucking INSULT to the people in captivity the prophecy is actually refering to, let alone the prophets and the Most High's master plan. I bet that Jermiah, Hosea, Micah and the likes would think these guys are retards. This pisses me off to no end.

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How does the WTS understand this? (SERIOSULY NEED REPLIES)

by Strider Arekksu in

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hey, i'm trying to figure out how the wts concluded that the children of isreal were cast off.

it's hard to explain to people who beleive that this org came from god is true, when in fact it has teachings that can get people killed if i'm understanding correctly.

it is hard to get them to understand that teaching this is fufilling a prophecy that proves that the org is part of false religion.. there are so many verses that obviously prove this to be a lie and explain why it is a lie.. luke 4:18. matthew 10: 5-12. isaiah 11:11. levitcus 26:44, 45. isaiah 49: 14, 15. romans 11: 1, 2. romans 11: 25, 26. john 4: 22. now i know all organizations that are religious says that outside their religion everything is satan.

Strider Arekksu

Paul's teaching are advanced and easily confused especially if one is a gentile. There is still a distinction between natural Isreal and the Gentiles (wild olive brances and natural ones). There is a new convenant yes, that includes the Gentiles but that ONLY refers to the inheritance of the kingdom, not how the word is to be taught. Only Isrealites taught the word of God, no one else can do it without hearing it from them first.

The Isrealites are Negroids which encylopdias state did not come from Ham. Arabs KNOW we are Hebrews, but no one even listens. The scriptures use lineage to describe situations in prophecies.

What I was asking is why people keep teaching that he cast away Isreal when the scriptures say it's not true? All I get is that same twisted up scripture used by Paul who Peter warned was an advanced teacher, man I hate the time of the Gentiles, everyone is lying about this book.

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How does the WTS understand this? (SERIOSULY NEED REPLIES)

by Strider Arekksu in

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hey, i'm trying to figure out how the wts concluded that the children of isreal were cast off.

it's hard to explain to people who beleive that this org came from god is true, when in fact it has teachings that can get people killed if i'm understanding correctly.

it is hard to get them to understand that teaching this is fufilling a prophecy that proves that the org is part of false religion.. there are so many verses that obviously prove this to be a lie and explain why it is a lie.. luke 4:18. matthew 10: 5-12. isaiah 11:11. levitcus 26:44, 45. isaiah 49: 14, 15. romans 11: 1, 2. romans 11: 25, 26. john 4: 22. now i know all organizations that are religious says that outside their religion everything is satan.

Strider Arekksu

Hey, I'm trying to figure out how the WTS concluded that the children of Isreal were cast off. It's hard to explain to people who beleive that this org came from God is true, when in fact it has teachings that can get people killed if I'm understanding correctly. It is hard to get them to understand that teaching this is fufilling a prophecy that proves that the org is part of false religion.

There are so many verses that obviously prove this to be a lie and explain WHY it is a lie.

Luke 4:18

Matthew 10: 5-12

Isaiah 11:11

Levitcus 26:44, 45

Isaiah 49: 14, 15

Romans 11: 1, 2

Romans 11: 25, 26

John 4: 22

Now I know all organizations that are religious says that outside their religion everything is satan. However, when most of the world religions say your race doesn't matter at all, is this really true? According to the Bible, God uses race to organize man, but he does not show favor in terms of who is obedient and who is disobiedient, punishment and reward are the same for all.

The organization taught that the decendants of the children of Isreal that they would turn white in paradise at a time, they also segregated agaisnt them. There is also hidden hate for them I'm sure. They make up a majority of the religion and its all a lie. However, God uses Isrealites to teach the word, they are his children so he will not go to one he does not know and give them the right to teach. All the teachers of God's word were Isreal, Jesus told his followers to go to Isreal FIRST! He told them this because they needed to wake up to realize who they are to preach the word to the Gentiles (Europeans).

Because of slavery we have been brainwashed into believing the lies that the slave masters taught us, but a lot of us are starting to wake up. This org says that salvation can only be found in his org. This is true! But what is his org? The JUDEANS! Salvation is found in a scattered nation or race NOT found in a religous org! If Satan gets everyone to belive that race doesn't matter, then everyone loses. I don't understand how you can claim that salvation is from the org when the Bible says that it's not.